Whose fault is that? :-)

I'm not usually into the kind of "flashing" where people can get angry at

me for being naked "in-their-face" - I mean the kind of situation where it's obvious that I'm consciously exposing my dick. Instead, I prefer the situations where people feel it's their own fault that they've seen me naked, and where they get embarrassed, mutter "I'm sorry" as they leave me - often while staring, because they can't help it.

One category of such situations is those in which I "should have" locked some door or something, but have "forgotten". When I'm having a shower in a hostel, the other people sharing the bathroom tend to enter while I'm showering. While it's my fault that I didn't lock the door, they feel it's their fault anyway - and of

course they notice that they stare just a little more than necessary, which is surely their fault... In some rare cases, even hotel rooms may be of this kind.

  Another category are "semi-private" situations in public. Being in a tent at a camping ground is a

simple example - if I change into some other clothes and have forgotten to shut the "door" properly, it's hardly my fault that the guy outside is staring into my tent and sees me naked. And if I'm walking around in the nude in my own dorm, it's the people peeking in, not me, who feels embarrassed... Amazingly many showers in hotels have big windows facing other buildings or streets - and who am I to blame to want some fresh air? Then there are the situations that are so far into nature that I couldn't expect anyone to see me. The trick here is to find the lake that is sufficiently far from everyone else that it seems natural to swim in the nude, but sufficiently close for people to pass by...

And then there are the situations in which I've made the rules - such as in my dorm. By now, everyone is so used to me being nude on the way from my room to the shower, so if any guests see

me naked, they are told that they shouldn't have been there in the first place... It's my dorm, anyway... :-) In addition to all of these, of course I explore the possibilities of fashion. When it suddenly has become "fashionable" to walk in loose trousers (and I choose not to use underwear, so that my bulge is showing), no one can blame me - instead, they blame themselves for staring at people's bulges in public.
The same goes for using swimwear that gets a bit transparent when wet, or

shorts without underwear where the dick may be glimpsed in certain
circumstances. Why blame me for looking desperately for my dick..? To sum up: I find that the possibilities are plenty for being seen naked in public - even without being seen as being to blame. Throw in nude beaches and so on into the equation, and there will be plenty of memorable experiences.

World Naked Bike Ride: Power, Purpose, or just getting nude in public?

Getting naked for the sake of some higher or noble purpose seems to be modern society's rather quirky response toward liberating today's new sexual mores and to bolster the moral consciousness of our so-called degenerate tribe(s) of humanity. It would be cool to actually participate , fo'sure!. But unfortunately, not many people are ready for prime time nudity where I live.We've been trying to get a World Naked Bike Ride started here (Tokyo) and elsewhere in Asia, but it really doesn't seem to go over that well for a variety of reason. I notice too that even some major urban areas has some trouble this year. In some case, the authorities refused to allow 'full monty' nudity - although I didn't seem to stop the true nudist enthusiasts or believers in the cause of 'No more exposure' to automobile exhaust. It's clear that the United States is decidedly more 'conversative' that other areas of the world - Chicago, the 3rd largest city, held its WNBR at night. For one thing, there seems to be a deluge of political apathy. People don't seem to care about making a strong political statement by public protest. Perhaps they have seen the futility of such protests (esp. public ones) over the generations. Secondly, people do not like to take personal responsiblity for their actions and decisions. Getting naked (partly or fully) is certainly a personal decision -- although it might seem to suit the 'group' mentality that seems apparent in many Asian countries. The fact is getting naked is very individual and very personal act. Finally, the sense of indignant indecency or an attitude of righteous morality that comes from doing something so brazen just does not have the same meaning in Asian countries. Nudity is just a fact of life. It does not make the same huge societal statement because nudity itself is not regarded as morally corrupt or wrong as it is in Christianity and otehr monotheistic religion-dominated cultures. The main reason I wanted to write about this was the thousands of great CMNM photos that appear during this season of the WNBR. Particularly appealing are the photos of naked men in the midst of clothed ones.

Places for a newbie to enjoy gay nude beaches and camping areas

Photo at the top shows a younger guy who was cruising naked in the dunes on Gran Canaria.

Original posting: ky_gui [msg] 
14 Feb 2011, 18:11 I will soon be turning 21 and I don't really consider myself to be a bar and club kind of

person.
I have been looking around on the internet and have stumbled across male only (gay) clothing optional camping. 90% of the camp grounds i have looked at are BYOB, hence the 21+.

What I was wondering is,  "has anyone on here been to any?" 
Are there good ones, compared to the bad ones?

I will not lie, and say I am educated on these kind of areas, I don't know anything.

I am not really worried about money, but I don't really want to fly across the USA to get to the place. I live in the mid-west. So something in that general area, maybe??? like i said i dont know.

Any input someone can give me will be greatly appreciated, who knows maybe i will find some one to go with. lol. 

One last thing, a lot of the the camp grounds i looked at were gay friendly, I think i want it to be male only. not that I have a problem with lesbians, I just don't want to camp with them. lol (that was sposta be a joke... I'm not really that funny)

 Follow up: pedrobill [msg] 
14 Feb 2011, 18:37 No mate, that joke didn't really come off, but I thought your profile was pretty funny! I'm gay, and I like to go camping, but other than that I don't know anything about "Gay Camping" - don't you just find a flat bit of ground, put up your tent and hey presto - gay camping!

 Follow up: ky_gui [msg] 
14 Feb 2011, 18:52 See I was leaning toward the clothing optional part. And I just dont know if I'm brave enough to camp anywhere and just be naked. lol!  I'm pretty sure knowing my luck I would get arrested. 

And I don't know of anywhere remote enough to get away with it.

 Follow up: pedrobill [msg] 
14 Feb 2011, 18:59 Ah yes, I realise now, the header is key, ie clothing optional. Actually I was being just a little mischievous. I  do like to get to some fairly remote places, where you can be reasonably assured of not being 'spung', and yes I'm the same - wouldn't quite be brave enough otherwise. Though sometimes it's not really the remoteness that matters. Half an hours walk off the track is often as untrammeled as somewhere that is deep in the forest but on a recognised path. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what others with more experience of organised 'clothing optional' venues come up with.
Happy camping.

 Follow up: hairydaddy [msg] 
14 Feb 2011, 19:59 sure, I've been to gay campgrounds with clothing optional........but not sure what would be out your way..........I camped in New York State and Pennsylvania where there are several.........know of them in Canada too..............scout around on google......for a campground near you

 Follow up: fitladrobb [msg] 
14 Feb 2011, 20:20 shame that your not in the UK we have some very good clothing optional sites here. include a

few that go down to age 16 if unaccompanied by adult or young-family ones.

have you tried hangoutnude.com there are LOADS of contacts on there for you.

robby

 Follow up: irish8986 [msg] 
15 Feb 2011, 01:40 I live and grew up about 2 miles from one here in PA, doesn't help you out much tho. It's a fun thing to do definitely try it out if you get the chance

 Follow up: chrisslond§ [msg] 
15 Feb 2011, 02:09 Here are a few sites to check out:http://www.campgayusa.com/CAMPGROUNDS.ht ml ,http://www.gayoutdoors.org/page.cfm?sectionid=62&typeofsite=directory and http://www.gaycampingusa.com/ are some to look at. I have camped at The Point near Turkey Point in Ontario

Canada and some other places. Each August, my partner and I go to the Gay Naturists International Annual Gathering that is at a camp in the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania. There are usually more than 500 naked guys there for up to 10 days. It is great walking around buck naked for 10 days in the summer.
Give it a try and find out how enjoyable it is.

 Follow up: hotnredi55 [msg] 
16 Feb 2011, 07:56 I have a couple campgrounds that are in the midwest, but still a distance from you. one is Campit Resort, near Saugatuck, Michigan. It is a very nice facility with lots of room for tenting, rv'ing, sleeper cabin rentals and bed and breakfast rooms. It is gay and lesbian, leaning more toward the men. one area is set aside for nude camping. and after about 1am, you are fairly safe to sit around your campfire naked, in at least one other area. Any woman walking back at that time of night, Wants to see naked men.

the other campground is totally men, and clothing optional in almost all areas further back from the entry area. Camp Buckwood, south of Indianapolis, Indiana.

campitresort.com and campbuckwood.com

check them out. both have wonderful facilities, and friendly staff and fellow campers. i have had wonderful times at both camps with other men, and with my boyfriend.

 Follow up: dungeonrat [msg] 

16 Feb 2011, 08:07 WWW.CactusCanyonCampground.com
Located in South-Central Missouri.

 Follow up: Rood [msg] 
16 Feb 2011, 09:47 http://www.midwestmalenaturistgathering. org/

 Follow up: asshunter [msg] 
16 Feb 2011, 11:54 we are members of The Woods campground since 2004 love it.
thewoodscampground.com

 Follow up: bcbud4u [msg] 
16 Feb 2011, 11:59 here in the Kootenays there are so many secluded lakes and areas to just hang nude, swim in the buff, and have a sweet camping weekend, why go paying for a private campground when you can find a place horseback, 4X4 or quad 4 free?

 Follow up: BldngStrng [msg] 
16 Feb 2011, 12:04 Well BC Bud...you are lucky to have that close by and available...not everyone has a horse or a 4X4 or Quad.....and the beautiful BC wilderness at their doorstep.


 Follow up: balllicker [msg] 
16 Feb 2011, 12:20 This won't really help you since it's in New York, but for others, I had a great time at this place: http://www.jonespond.com/

There were probably only a handful of guys there as young as me, but the older guys were a lot of fun and I loved the attention.

 Follow up: bcbud4u [msg] 
16 Feb 2011, 12:29 woah BldngStrng, nice build bud! though sorry, I wasn't really thinking... it was kind of an invite... what I should have typed, if a guy's going to travel to pay for camping, why not head where you can do it for free... my apologies.

 Follow up: sunbuns99* 
16 Feb 2011, 22:32 I've not taken time to read the entire thread so my response and ideas may have been mentioned. 

You're obviously more interested in a clothing optional experience and finding a place to do that with other men (hopefully gay males) for an extended period of time - not just a few minutes or hours. 

However, there is one place no too far away from KY (ky_gui = Kentucky Guy ?), but who's living in Iowa. 

Timberfell Lodge is clothing optional resort and campground in the foothills of the Appalachians (about 80 miles east of Knoxville.)

They only have weekend events in the winter (rooms and bunks bed are sometimes half price, but in summer it's a full time gay camping community with a lot of social / sex-related events. I'd say the main type of guy you find there are bears, but that's not all you'll find. It's almost clothing optional everywhere -- although sex acts are forbidden in common areas, there are plenty of dark and deserted spots -- especially at night.

 Campsite are $15 a night plus choice of 2-3 meal plans. There sell beer inside the resort which means you can't bring it,but you can BYOB wine and hard liquor. 

See http://www.timberfell.com for next events and details.

I'm trying to organize a CMNM National Meet-up (clothed male / nude male) at Timberfell Lodge for August 12-14 (actual dates vary) which is all the annual Mr. Timberfell Contest weekend. 

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There are also other options / places where you can get naked and possibly engage in cruising for sex. Most of the nude beaches around the country have gay cruising areas. Like it or not, that's likely one reason for the crack-down on clothing optional public beaches in quite a few places across the country. 

Being able to camp textile (required clothes) and then walk to a nude beach is a good option - but quite rare except in Europe or at all-gay clothing-optional resorts. 

You can find some at Palm Springs,  Key West, FL, Haulover Beach (Ft Lauderdale, FL,)

Russian River area - 90 miles north west of San Francisco in and around Guerneville.
See http://www.highlandsresort.com/ They have campsites available as well as rooms and bungalows,  but the nudity must be restricted to pool and jacuzzi. 
There is also the possibility of some naughty free skinny dipping while floating down the Russian River. 

Baker's Beach in San Francisco (no camping of course but you'll feel it's the great outdoors once you're inside the Golden Gate Park and surrounding recreation areas. 

and Provincetown (Cape Cod,Mass) - although there has evidently been a crackdown on public nudity (by anyone) at the famous Herring Cove (state beach) that is 15 minute walking distance from P-town. That's what I used to do. Camp among clothed at night, spend all day among the naked during the day .
There's a commercial campground with easy walking distance of P-town (out on Hwy 6), Dunes' Edge Campground, and you can walk, bike or drive from there to Herring Cove Beach. I've heard that people still get nude at the P-town beach, but they have to be discreet because the park rangers patrol often and hand out tickets (or worse) to naked men in the sand dunes. Most everywhere they are more tolerant of non-sexual nudism, particularly where there are mixed groups. 

Overseas there are many more....

Big Island (Hawaii) Kalani is a gay-owned, and nudity friendly retreat for all types -more focused on spiritual, yoga, and new age trends, the pool area in clothing optional after 4pm , and there is the famous Kehena Beach (also clothing optional and alternative / new age oriented, with a wonderful assortment of naked people from every age and walk of life. 
Kalani has accommodations from camping to villa suites, meal plans or pay as you go are options. 

The world's largest nude beach and sand dudes (gay cruising area) is at Maspalomas (at Playa del Ingles on southern end of the island of Gran Canaria). 
That 's where I'm headed for the 5th time next month (March 15-22).. I'm not camping but staying at a two-hotel hotel for about $30 a night (self-catering), sex city at night and sunshine and naked male skins for days on the beach. 
Men cruising the dunes are aged 40+ and higher so not everybody's preference. 

Photo at the top shows a younger guy who was cruising naked in the dunes on Gran Canaria (on the largest of Spain's Canary Islands).