Vacation CMNM experiences with younger men

Vacation CMNM experiences

by sunbuns99  

   

I had some great CMNM (Clothed Male Naked Male) experiences during my month of vacation travel in August a few years back. They really aren't ones that would have much graphic or explicit content or anything like that... but they were certainly meaningful because I was able to make some great connections with people. For me, it's not enough just to be naked in front of strangers - that's

easy enough to accomplish at a nudist beach, locker room, or clothing optional resort, etc.

I find it increasingly important to me if I can develop some kind of interaction - social - not even sexual with the guys I am nude with. I realize that this probrably says a lot about the nature of my own reasons or motivation for seeking out CMNM situations. I should eventually delve into that - I suppose. For me it not simply whether or not the guy is showing any interest in seeing my nude body or me his. It's much more satisfying when the clothed person and I (or if I'm clothed and he's nude) are engaging in either doing something together or conversing about mutal interests while one of us is nude.

Here is just a quick glimpse at my summer episodes... (as much for my own recall as for your entertainment ):

a) I stayed several weeks on the Big Island (Hawaii) so I had a chance to camp, go to a clothing optional resort, and get nude on a couple of beaches

b) I stayed at a hostel (same one as before) and had a wonderful time getting to know my bunkmates and people from adjoining rooms. There were quite a few opportunities to be naked or be clothed with naked during that 5-day stay. One of the most fun things was 6 of us going skinnydipping at Waikiki Beach after midnight (2 women and one guy remained clothed, 3 guys got naked). I had spent the whole time just dying to see those other two hunks in the nude so it was really cool being accepted in the camaraderie of guys being guys and getting to skinnydip with them in the end.

c) I meet up the next week with oneof the guys who stayed in that same hostel dorm room (he didn't

go skinnydipping) but his bunk was just across from mine (both on the top) so I had an uninterrupted view of him sleeping and also he had the same of me - I sleep nude every night of course. I loved watching him put his hand down his pants and play with or 'straighten' his cock (supposedly while asleep).

I made sure he got a chance to see me with a woody too several times a night (and at sunrise) - although he never acknowledged noticing. Because we were both returning (from Honolulu) back to the the Big Island, we ended up going together to the Puna area of the Big Island the following week- so I introduced to the delights of the 'naked Aloha' life. It was his first trip to a nude beach and at first he was reluctant - although he's the one who suggested going - but finally he got up the courage to shed all his clothes and even allowed me to take some photos.

Later we camped out a Kalani so he got another chance to

be naked on the clothing optional pool that evening. Of course, I slept naked next to him in the 2-man tent and I hardly got any sleep at all. The previous day we went to the natural steam vents (like an outdoor sauna made from lava-heated steam) and we got naked. A guy there was 'pretending 'to sleep and sporting a big hard on so that gave me and Koji a chance to talk later about dicks and erections when the other guy got up and left. I got several pics (and he of me) of our short few days together.

d) I stayed in Manhattan at the West Side Y and had quite a few chances to be naked with strangers. Guests can use the pool, gym and locker rooms just like paid members. On my return trip thru NYC, I stayed at another hostel and also scouted out a few more where I might return on my next trip. I also spent several evenings at the West Side Club.



e) Some nudity at a couple public beaches lead to some sexual encounters -- I met a really nice Russian guy whom I mistook for straight until he keep coming up and trying to get peeks some parts of my anatomy. Eventually, I got more than just a peek at his.

f) One of the times I almost forgot about was really one of the coolest CNMN experiences I had for

a long while. I stayed over in Waikiki over 6 days (at the hostel I mentioned earlier). On Sundays, there is a catamaran cruise which is mainly reserved for gay and lesbians departing from Waikiki Beach at 1:00pm - you can get discounted tickets at Angles (gay bar on Kuhio)



and the 90-minute ride includes 4 drink tickets. It's advertised as clothing optional - although I'd never seen anybody go naked on this cruise before (it was the 2nd time to take the cruise since they have advertised it as 'nude cruise.' It seems that actually boat operator and captain aren't really kept informed (at least they plead ignorance). I asked my hostel roommates if they wanted to come along but the macho-man guy from the Netherlands was negative about it, saying he didn't want to go on any gay cruise - but - of course, it seemed he never missed an opportunity to get naked. I am sure all would have had a great time if they had gone. I certainly did.

Previously cruises were very tame, but this time I simply was not going to be denied the chance to get naked in public in front of so many people. As we were boarding, I asked some of the guys if they were going to get naked later on. Nobody seemed eager but there were any flat denials either. So .... when we got further out in the bay about 500 yards from shore, I asked the

captain - a local Hawaiian guy, if it OK if I got naked. He said he was told about that before - but I explained that the cruise was advertised that way and that I wouldn't be obscene or do anything to attract attention from other boats. So he consented.

I was the only one to get nude and there were a few women and also a group of 5 young Black doctors from Wash D.C. in town for a medical convention. I sat with a very big local guy but he didn't get naked but seemed to enjoy having me do so. The two young ship's mates on board took furtive looks but they were nonchalant about having a naked haole dude on board. Later on we got back closer to shore nearly the end of the cruise, I pulled on my trunks and then we asked about being able to stop for a swim so the captain agreed. It would have been great to have been naked - all of us jumping off of the boat and then remerging up the gangway between the two large rudder fins of the catamaran. It was a great cruise and being naked made it so much more fun.

Hawaii Nudist and Gay Beaches (Oahu and the Big Island) -- Update Sept.2017

Hawaii Nudism and possible cruising in Hawaii
- REPUBLISHED May 28, 2008, revised October 2008, Revised Sept 2012, Updated Sept. 2017

(Note: Some info may not be accurate since conditions change - such is the nature of nudism across the world - the weather and erosion, changes in attitudes of the local community and prohibition or surveillance by law enforcement or public park authorities may cause significant changes to the 'facts' listed in the article below).

Sorry for the canned and somewhat disorganized article below but I frequently get requests about the topic of Hawaii and what 'gay' things there are, so I have this standard blog entry and have just kept adding more to it over the years.  It's time now again for update on the information.

If you have more specific questions later, I'll try to answer them. But for now, I hope this general introduction to Hawaii nude beaches and gay spots there will help.

The first part is mainly about Oahu. There is aksi specific information about The Big Island, Hawaii, and Maui at the end of this article.

Nudity and Nude Beach in Hawaii

Nude beaches, heh? Do they exist in the Hawaii islands?

Yes, but proceed with some caution because except for a couple of places (not on Oahu), nude sunbathing is considered illegal (except for a couple of long-time (and which has tacit permission for the law enforcement officers).

Warning:  Nudity on public beaches is illegal. Do not do so without taking adequate precautions to be discreet. However, there are a few places where it is tolerated (or at least overlooked) by the authorities. However, most of these are NOT located on Oahu. Nevertheless, nude sunbathing does happen on Oahu (the main island, where Honolulu and its famous, Waikiki Beach is located).

Queen's Surf  -- NOW NO LONGER A GAY MEETING PLACE
There used to be a section of Waikiki Beach called Queen's Surf -- where you guessed it - the queens gathered. But sadly it is longer active as a gay men's meeting point (for sunbathing (clothed, of course), picnicking, and just talking.  No, it is not called Queen's Surf because it was frequented by drag queens (LOL), but gay men used to gather there to socialize.

It's still there as a public beach, and only a few gay men  congregate there nowadays (Aug 2017), but nothing like the masses of gay men who used to frequent this public beach. It's found just passed the Honolulu Zoo, and is located just two hundred yards from the Waikiki Aquarium. You can find it just passed the snack shop/restroom in a grassy area lined with palm tress. However, there is absolutely no nudity on this very public part of the beach. Many people don't even notice it and you're likely to have families or tourist/visitors sitting near or even among the 'guys' on the grass lawn just across the beach side sidewalk. NOW (as of 2015 and later),  NO LONGER A GAY MEETING PLACE.

Diamond Head Beach (Lighthouse Beach)

For nudism, the closest place to Waikiki where you can go to a gay and sometimes discreetly nude beach on Oahu is at Diamond Head Beach (below the Light House).

It can be cruisy, but you need to be aware that it is part of a public beach and not everybody walking down along the shore is a guy looking for gay sex. Tourists, people walking their pets, and families sometimes walk thru and even stop to enjoy the beach too. However, it does get cruisy at times -- sometimes best when the sun has started to set or after sunset. Just be discreet and cover up if somebody who looks like a cop comes thru. I have never seen a police office or been stopped myself, but I've "heard" that arrests have been made for public indecency. I have received a parking ticket - so don't park where it is prohibited or after posted hours. There are places to "hide", ledges to sunbathe nude without being seen from below and I've had some wild times there both in broad daylight and after dusk, especially on the forested hillside just above this beach.

How to get there..
From the east end of Waikiki, you can drive there or it is even possible to walk (20-30 minute walk across and down along Kapiolani Park) to its eastern end and then walk up about 700 yards to the drive way that goes down to Light House Beach. You can't miss Diamond Head crater's peak looming overhead -- which can be seen from anywhere in Honolulu. If you drive, then you can follow Kalakaua east to the Zoo and then continue due east along Kapiolani Park to its end and then turn right on Diamond Head road. There is a small road down the beach -- but there is limited parking there (don't leave a car at most Diamond Head Road street parking after 10pm or as posted!!)

If driving, it is easier sometimes to go on passed the light house and then look for parking up at the look-out point(s) along Diamond Head Road (regular unmetered parking) or for roadside parking on the mountain side of Diamond Head Road. As any place in Honolulu - don't leave valuables in your car and don't park where people can easily sneak up and open your car -- car break-ins in Honolulu  are among the highest rates in the entire country -- more than New York City, by far. So you'd best take precautions.

If you're really worried about break-ins,  then drive your rental car,  but park instead at Kapiolani Park,  or take a bus (#14) or a taxi and then walk back from the nearest bus stop to beach, or just walk all the way from Waikiki and back - which is what I usually do., besides, it's good exercise too. The walk through Kapiolani Park either way is beautiful. On the beach side parallel with the Park and eventually leading to Waikiki proper just across from the Zoo (at the interection of Kalakaua and Kapahulu) is the extension of Waikiki Beach. There you'll find Queen's Surf Beach between the Honolulu Zoo and the Waikiki Aquarium, where a lot of gays hang out - but there in NO NUDITY absolutely at such a public place.

Just as a extra side-trip, I often stop in at the men's restroom and changing room with open stall showers at the old Natatorium (outdoor competitive swimming pool - which has now fallen in decay from lack of use). It's open from early (6:00am ) to dusk so you can sometimes catch (cute) guys changing and showering before or after their romps in the ocean for swimming and surfing. I always like to get naked when I shower, and enjoy it even more when another guy or guys does the same.

Being Discreet and Avoiding Trouble
You should know that public (beach) nudity is illegal in Hawaii (as in most US States) -- this is posted at most beaches -- and there has evidently been more police patrolling of Light House beach. But I myself have never seen a police officer on the beach -- although the stories / rumors keep going around. My advice is don't be blatant -- it is a public beach with families and tourists -- who don't expect to see a nude guy especially one with a hard-on or engaged in sexual activity. They are probably the ones who call the police (if they ever do come down to look for "sex perverts".) I prefer to stay up above the beach -- (but not TOO high) or the tourist at the look-out point above can see you -- and have towel/swimsuit to cover up if somebody obviously NOT gay comes snooping around.

Nonetheless, I've had some good "looks" and quite a lot of sex in the bushes and in the coves/nooks, especially around dusk. If you aren't interested in the cruising part, then you can just enjoy the sun and see what other guys do. They can't arrest you for thongs or skimpy bikinis in any case.

Mokuleia (near Polo Field) on the North Shore (Oahu)
(part of a discussion Yahoo! Group Hawaii Nudist -- it is not very active, but there was information about a North Shore 'nudist' beach - Mokuleia.)

Since there are no legal nude beaches on Oahu or its too far to go there, some guys do lie out on the north shore near the Polo Fields at Mokuleia. Others lie out at Diamond head below the lighthouse right outside Waikiki. (by Honolulust)

The beach on the North Shore (Polo Fields) is much nicer than the Diamond Head lighthouse beach. The water is clearer, cleaner and much more secluded. At the end of the public access trail, go to the right for the gay nude area. As you walk you will see a bushy wooded area.
That's the gay area. You can situate yourself on the beach or in the little areas in the bushes. I 've had some very hot sessions on that beach!
(by Musl2Pound)

I'm still not sure where that beach is - Polo Fields at Mokuleia. Is in off of Crozier Dr. (the street closest to the shore) or is it further west out Farrington Hwy? If you don't have a car (a tourist
or visitor) would you be out of luck? I mean is it worth take a bus to Waialua and then walking?
(These question are from sunbuns99 - p.s. Nobody ever answered my questions so I still don't know much about Mokuleia (May 2008). You can find the place and the polo fields on Google maps.)

The idea of a gay clothing-optional camping resort

Part of a discussion on another phpBB forum discussion board. The topic was discussing the idea of male-only clothing-optional RV park, camping center, or gay resort. I spent a lot of energy thinking about this kind of project --probably because I really like the 'seed' of the idea. My advice was to approach is a vision - one that needed a real (and well-researched) business plan.

lilcowboy I flash underneath my clothes Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 3

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: Male only clothing optional I have been in a debate with people about an idea i had and hoping the readers of this forum can help me. I would like to open a clothing optional private RV park for men only. I am being informed that it wouldn't be a hit and i am being told yes it would. I would like to know if other men would possibly be interested in such a park as a get away to relax and play in the sun. For the relaxing side i was thinking of a pool with a couple of hot tubs, with indoor/outdoor showers, maybe putt-putt golf. Of course the ideas could be endless and maybe you can suggest some relaxing activities. Would this be a good investment? This would be open to all men that are of legal age 18 and up.

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toras

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:59 am Post subject:
Depends on where you are located; if you are near a sizeable gay population it might attract enough clientele. Hear in Southern Ontario/Northern New York area there are 1 or 2 similar places I think. _________________ Naked and Shaved Toronto asian male

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TightGearShowoff

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Joined: 12 Jun 2008
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Location: Bay Area, California

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:49 am Post subject:
Hi, I agree, it does depend on your location. RV camping can be done all year, but I'm not sure how many gay RVers there are these days, but if you were to combine it with camping (seasonal) and choose a private location..that has a wooded area..hot tub/pool/showers etc..I think you may be onto something. It might be a good idea to have a day use policy too so guys can come and relax, use the facilities and romp with the campers and guys in RV's. You might do beer bust or bbq on weekends..stuff like that. Make the food free (build it into the costs) but charge a flat fee for the beer. If it were near a river for swimming...even better....but you may get traffic floating by. Good luck!

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Phlasher
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Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject:
If you are marketing towards gay guys, then you may have some success. You will also have guys banging and sucking each other all over the park -- especially at night. Not sure of the laws, but that may lead to the police getting involved. There is a difference between a clothing optional RV park and a gay sex club.

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sunbuns
Desperately flashing Susan

Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: Hawaii, San Diego, travel a lot US,Asia, Europe, etc

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:06 am Post subject:
You'll need to do more market research .. than ask the infrequent and random member of this site. How many (such RV and camping sites with 'resort' facilities) can you find in your area? Statewide, provincial (CA), nationally (or internationally - CA/Mex)? Visit or talk by phone the owner/operators of several. I think you should not be fixed on just doing a 'RV' gay camp site. With the price of gasoline, fewer people are rushing out to buy huge RVs. Some important things have already been said. But are you limiting the idea too much? males only, RVs only, 1-person operation? On what kind of scale are you thinking of making this? Enough for 5 RV (parked on 1-acre or less, or a 20 - 200 acre spread? Do you expect to run it alone or are you going to have employees? (opening yourself up to the possibilities -- also - opens you up to a lot of liabilities too. I'm not nixing the idea - just asking and advising you to think and also gather more information. You need a business plan and also have a vision of how the vision might grow (change) in the next 5 - 10 - 20 years. The male-only requirement seems a little drastic -if not downright discriminatory (not in the legal sense) - although it might be (needs checking). By doing so, it seems you aren't really thinking about it as a money-making business. So you need to sort out what you're really trying to do: have access to your own 'private' sex club, make extra money, create a business (investment, capital expenditures, employees, taxes, accounting, etc), If you make it a gay camping resort, then it's likely that 85% of your customers will be men, 10% lesbian couples, and 5% would be wives, girlfriends, fag hags, daughters, sisters, because some gay men are married or travellng with female companions.or family. If you make it simply a clothing optional instead of 'gay', I honestly don't think these basic numbers will change a whole lot -- for example 70% would be gay men and male couples, 10% lesbian, and 20% mixed. You should be able to confirm these numbers by surveying some current owner-operators.     You're also likely to get more year-round guests, and have more men who don't identify themselves as 'gay' but who want to be with other naked men (maybe seems a contradiction - but I think it happens a lot). Only RVs? That's too limiting. If you have the right amount of land and a good location, then why limit it to RVers? Generally, they are retirees, reasonably well off financially (esp if they are not retired), they travel in couples and they tend to herd (many RVs want to go where their nomadic RV 'friends' go). They stay a long time, too, esp if the weather is warmer in winter where you are. It would be good to have a multiple-use type of camping resort: RV sites, tent camping sites, small cabins/A-frames, a lodge with dining facilities (the restaurant alone could draw in people), day-use passes, etc. If you can't do it all at once, then at least plan with the idea of possibly growing the business in mind. Also, there are any number of other expansion possibilities to bring in guests who want a vacation, or those who want to spend a day-two out of the city (and like being naked to do so), by having the resort be MORE than just a place to sleep and sit in the sun. Location is your biggest obstacle - are you going to move to the best location for such a place or are you going to build it in your backyard -- Build it and they will cum (pun intended). Is your area conducive to such a place? In every sense ....? Still it's been done before -- who would have thought a small rural community 40 miles outside of Knoxville (TN) would support Timberfell Lodge All of these places have a central type of clientele that makes them succesful. Try to find out what the clientele will be in your area? RVers only (aging baby boomers - which are still a forced to be reckoned with) or a mix of gay and gay-tolerant YUPs (young urban professionals). My impression is that today's affluent gay baby-boomers can afford and want more from an outdoor (camping resort) type vacation. Having stuff (eating / activities / consumer-oriented (shop/gifts,classes/culture, etc or even entertainment) for guests that could also be used by passers-throug or short or day-time visitors and local residents might generate income -- of course, it makes the business larger and somewhat more difficult to manage -- In that case then, you cannot do it alone. These might include: a shop for local artisans or locally made food products/souvenirs), a museum of "___", a theater (for performing arts, music, gay plays, film festival, or not... ), classes and seminars (yoga , dance, bodywork, massage, spiritual training, arts/crafts, artists-in-resident, etc), gym-workout facilities, with sauna/jacuzzi Staffing them becomes your second biggest problem -- (not always a problem since if you pay well and have good working conditions and know how to manage people effectively, your resort could become a very nice place to work. You would be able to recruit instead of just taking any Tom, Dick or Harry who needs a job. Well ... I've given you the $2500 lesson in business planning ...  send a check (LOL) to Sunbuns Consulting, Inc. -- just kidding. But you might have a great idea -- do you have the stamina, energy, vision, and drive to accomplish it? Do you the money or the source of funding for such a project? (Note: More of the first three qualities are needed than the latter.) Hey... I've been to several such outdoors-oriented camping resorts in many locations (internationally and in the US). A couple of examples are: Timberfell Lodge in Tennessee and Kalani Oceanside Resort (kalani.com) - they are representative of the kind of place that I would build if I were doing this business. _________________ The spirit is willing but the flash is week day and weekend!

Sincerely,
Kelly (sunbuns / sunbuns99 )