
Monday, November 2, 2015
Naked in Locker Rooms: Voices from the past, Part 1b
| runr |
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Something has been bugging me for quite some time, but I can't exactly bring
up the subject with the culprits: What's with all the guys who resist wearing towels in the locker rooms of athletic clubs? I'm using the plural because, though I only belong to one club, I assume the phenomenon is widespread. I'm not a prude, but there's something really creepy about flabby 60-year-olds standing shaving/gabbing/strolling etc. buck naked when they could easily wrap towels around their waists. My theory, for what it's worth, is that many of these people have not participated in high school or college athletics, thereby learning a few important things about locker room etiquette. I ran track and xc in college not long ago, and everybody wore towels except, naturally, in the shower. There's just no reason to display your garbage to the world if you don't have to. If you're one of the no-towel types, I'd like to hear why you do it. |
| girlie |
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Women do it too. Pretty gross.
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| You Can't Be Serious |
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naked guy in the locker room who invades my space and insists and getting far to close to me or others is truly disgusting. serious social violation.
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| Flagpole Willy |
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Personally I wear a towel all the time except for the few seconds I don't have to while getting dressed or getting in the shower, but that is only because Flagpole Willy cares about everyone and their feelings.
Don't want everyone else feeling badly about their shortcomings you know. |
| mmm, naked 60 yr olds |
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People that age grew up with different norms for locker room behavior. When they were kids they actually showered after gym class. I doubt it was because they lack your vast experience as an athlete; if anything, people who never spent time in locker rooms tend to cower in corners.
Besides, if I haven't showered yet, I don't wrap my towel around my sweaty body. Why get the towel dirty to avoid offending your sexual insecurities? |
| Pauncho |
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It was easy to wrap a towel around myself when I was a young runner. When you grow a gut, you can't keep the damn towel on, and it just falls on the floor anyway.
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| Sound and Vision |
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This is an interesting viewpoint. I am a twenty-something and in college and in high school, the people who wore towels, of which I once was, were looked upon with contempt and disgust. I think the rationale was that those individuals had very small penises and were hiding them or else they were afraid of revealing their erections it was presumed they might be having (although I am not sure a towel would do much to hide an erection, that was the logic used by teenagers). Before long, I ditched the towel and found it didn't really bother me or anyone else. I personally am not offended by any person who goes without a towel nor do I scoff at those who carry one. It seems pretty irrelevant. I don't know what social norms are expected in a place like a locker room, but I either don't know them or I ignore them.
On an interesting side note, I went to a female friends apartment last night to spend some time there, and upon entering, I found one of them completely nude in her shower--naturally--and one of her other roommates standing there combing her hair in the same bathroom with the door wide open. Being a gentleman, I chose not to stand there and gawk but I did see enough to figure out that neither girl appeared disconcerted or bothered by the one naked female. I guess this means girls, or at least these two, don't appear to have the same hangup guys do. S&V |
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runr: cry me a river
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| peeper |
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S&V, Next time you visit your friends please bring a digital camera and snap a shot to share with us all. It might not be the gentlemanly thing to do, but it would be the manly/humanitarian thing to do (unless you friend's naked showering friend is a sorry sight. If that is the case, I feel for you).
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| Ex-Ivy |
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In college, I always enjoyed the freedom of wandering around the locker room with my johnson unleashed. The locker room was sort of a johnson-free zone-- our private space, where we could crank up some tunes after a workout and let things swing....
Now there were guys who would do things like wear sandals into the shower... these dudes usually whipped their towels tightly around their small packages immediately upon exiting, usually after a nervous 20 second shower. These guys usually snuck in an extra half mile on the warm down to hit their log goal, and usually had to get back to their dorm right away to study engineering. They let loose maybe once per season, getting ridiculously trashed at team parties. Other guys took it too far, sitting around reading shit, going from locker to locker talking trash, laying out on benches, and in one memorable case, eating a tuna fish sandwich, completely buck naked, almost luxuriating in their manhood. Most of these guys did pretty well with the ladies, as I recall, and often drank heavily on weeknights at local townie bars. They sometimes initiated interesting discussions, such as the relative merits of attending class commando-style, their favorite "nookie pants," and their perception of various ladies' preferences with regard to respective johnsons. There was rarely any open package-checking, but once in a while, some big swinging dick would declare himself king of the johnsons and call out a particular dude for a face off. I don't recall any of these competitions ever getting off the ground, but there was generally money wagered, sides chosen up and lots of pointless dick comments fired back and forth. I fell somewhere in between, feeling pity for the dudes who were ashamed of their action, but wishing some of these other guys would pack it in from time to time. Nowadays, I basically change quickly in small stalls, usually in a hurry. I miss the locker room atmosphere, but upon reflection, its probably not because of the johnsons. Now I'm in my 30's and haven't wandered around naked in front of other guys in a while, except for a trip to Europe, but that's different. I remember a July 4th barbecue with some bare-assed antics too, but there were chicks there, so I guess that doesn't count either. I'd welcome an old-timers day, I suppose, although I'd probably be more turned off by the guts involved, including my own,than anything else. I don't know what it means, but as I write this from my office, I bet my colleagues outside would be shocked by my bare-assed history and would think I was a bit freewheeling, which makes me somehow feel like I'm in the wrong job. Sometimes I'll come out of the shower in my place and walk around without a towel, and then realize that the curtains are open and my neighbors can probably see. I'll feel a momentary embarassment and go for the blinds, but then I'll say the hell with it, this is my place and my johnson, so what do I care? |
| Mop Boy |
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Ex-Ivy,
Didn't I catch you hiding under the bench in the sauna of the men's locker room at Bally's last week. You really WAX reminiscent about your old locker room. |
| Typical American |
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Americans are very uncomfortable with their bodies and their sexuality.
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| You Can't Be Serious |
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I have no problems with dudes walking around bare ass nekid. The ones that get me are those who bring their junk a little too close to you and/or others with changing and conversing. There are just certain levels of proper locker room decorum.
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| D3 Running |
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ridiculous... my god... if you cannot stand to see the guys' packages then don't look if you truly don't want. just cuz you see a guys wang doesn't mean that you're gay or that they are trying to make people uncomfortable by having it out. Our team walks around naked all the time and we just have a good laugh about it and don't think about it anymore. it makes for some good jokes and what not. get over your fear of being thought of as gay and rock out with your cock out
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| You Can't Be Serious |
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read what i wrote. not your interpretation of it.
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| laissez-faire |
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naked communal showers make for more socially well-adjusted men. there is truly nothing to hide in this life, if not the johnson. if girls' teams had communal showers, maybe they wouldn't be such headcases. or maybe it would be worse.
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Naked in Locker Rooms: Voices from the past, Part 1c
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When I was a freshman in high school we were in the go-between thing between guys and girls locker rooms and two naked guys (football players0 walked in totally naked. It was really gross one was my brother's best friend they were seniors and we were only freshman. Guys who walk around naked in locker rooms must be gay, me and my friends could never look at them again without laughing.
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| XC recruitgirl |
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PS we were in the go between getting our cross country uniforms from the coach, that is where uniforms were stored.
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| comfortable |
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I like to shower in the locker room and keep my eye out for guys that are obviously uncomfortable with nakedness, then i put my towel over my shoulders and walk up to them and talk to them. even better if they are sitting on the bench, puts their eyeline right at ball height. during the convo they are all squirmy and uncomfortable and dont know where to look, its great, everyone who is comfortable in the locker room should do this.
The origonal poster of this thread is one of those guys who wears his towel, then pulls his whitey tighties up underneath it. how sad. |
| locker room stud |
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When I was in high school (last year), there was no such thing as a personal space bubble. The borderline between "funny because it's gay" and "bad because it's actually gay" was never reached. I was sitting on the floor tying my shoes one day and a naked teammate ran up to me and wiped his sweaty asscrack across my head like you would scan a credit card. Ah, the good old days.
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| Proud Parents |
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lovely dude. that's not gay, that's not funny. that's just down right disgusting.
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| Phil. |
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runr wrote: Sorry to break this to you but yes you are a prude!
Your theory is wrong, back in the day we weren't so insecure as you obviously are and someone wearing a towel would have been rather strange. Certainly putting a towel on to go to the shower after XC or Rugby when you're covered in mud would have been crazy! Communal showering was usually a surprise when first encountered at about 12yo but everyone got over it fairly rapidly, clearly you didn't. The fact that you refer to it as 'garbage' clearly indicates a problem and I suggest counselling.
![]() Because showering naked is normal and being naked in a locker room is nothing to get hung up about! |
| Bobby Knight |
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Prudes indeed. I take a dump - wipe my ass - show the used toilet paper to my team and the next thing you know they say I was harrassing them. Getting naked, shitting together and watching German Poop tapes this is the stuff of Champions.
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| Buffalo Alumni |
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During my first couple years at UB we (the mens team) had an unspoken rule about nakedness in the locker room. There was none! With only one exception though. The biggest, baddest distance runner on the team (George) could go without the fig leave. Why? Because if you said anything to him about his exposer he would jump you, and wrestle you to the ground buck naked! Very disturbing!
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| mormons are funny |
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the mormons at my high school wear towels around them WHEN showering in the locker rooms. it's kinda funny, cuz then they grab their clothes and go into the bathroom stalls w/ the locks on them and change into their clothes so no one can see them w/ their clothes off. I on the other hand take off everything and eat breakfast while taking my shower. it feels good, and i don't care if they see me, it's not like they've never seen something like it before. Plus after 8 miles at 5 AM, I don't really care what you think about me.
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| Uncle Billsby |
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So you're saying we should just f*** that 60 year old man in the ass in front of his kids?
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| ray |
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I think an earlier poster hit it on the head. I'm 51. when I was in Junior High, we were told we all had to shower after gym class. Now I see kids on the high school teams go into stalls to change into their shorts. When my dad brought me to the Y for the first time, I couldn't believe everyone swam naked. Same thing at the old North End Boys Club.
And yes, how about a little title nine enforcement on the girls shower situation. Why they had individual stalls and we had the prison camp setting can't be good for their self image. It is truly weird that today's youth are so sexually liberated, promiscuous at a very young age, and yet so hung up on their bodies. Splain that to me Lucy. |
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"I like to shower in the locker room and keep my eye out for guys that are obviously uncomfortable with nakedness, then i put my towel over my shoulders and walk up to them and talk to them. even better if they are sitting on the bench, puts their eyeline right at ball height. during the convo they are all squirmy and uncomfortable and don't know where to look, its great, everyone who is comfortable in the locker room should do this.
The original poster of this thread is one of those guys who wears his towel, then pulls his whitey tighties up underneath it. how sad." We had a guy on the team and I will never forget this. He would do the above exactly. Walk up to a freshmen who was very uncomfortable. He would walk up towel on head put lean up against the lockers with his junk a foot from there head and say "listen John a couple of upper classman have been getting together, we have been talking (we think you are a hard worker, we really like your attitude, all serious stuff and finish with)we all think you have got a really nice cock. It was hilarious. The reaction was priceless |
Saturday, February 21, 2015
Locker Room Etiquette 1
SSbrownbear says:
Generationally, there is a huge difference in how men treat nudity. Men of a certain age - nowadays those 35 or even 40+ - grew up in a time when communal nudity just wasn't a big deal. Notice how many of these posts talks about "old guys." Most of us HAD to shower after gym - we got used to being naked with our peers.
Younger men have a completely different set of experiences. They have almost NO experience of
No right or wrong here - just different generations and experiences.
communal nudity. I bet only a handful of guys under 35 reading this ever had to shower after gym class. Larger homes and privacy mean that casual nudity - seeing a brother or dad nude probably doesn't happen. There is no context for nude being "okay" except under very specific circumstances.
The only time I'm ever completely naked in the men's locker room is while changing in and out of my clothes. Usually, I'll bring a towel with myself when using the sauna or steam room. With that said, most men I have encountered in the locker room are nude at some point or another. If your not comfortable with nudity then cover up. If you want to avoid seeing other men change...don't go into the changing room.
Dr Evil says:
Its about time this was brought to light. The locker room is not a buffet for you damn homos. Wrap your towel aroud you and qiut staring.
Normally I change under a towel, wrap a towel around my waist when walking around the locker room, and drape a towel over my privates when using the sauna or steam room. However, the last time I used the men's locker room while staying at a hotel in Abu Dhabi I decided to branch out. I emerged from the steam room and walked over to the changing area to find another hairy Middle Eastern man with a towel around his waist. After pulling out my clothes, I noticed him undo his towel, stretch his legs and dry of his crotch, pubes aplenty. For the first time this vivid display of the male body seemed normal and comfortable. Then and there I dropped my towel, completely naked for the first time in front of another man. I didn't even care if he was looking at my penis. Why should I? He has one too.
jezstar says:
i'd hate 2 get erect in a locker room, you would always be
known as "that guy who got hard in the showers" then
people would reply "oh... that guy..."
do we?
Most guys at my gym in the UK, particularly the East Europeans, seem pretty unfussed about being naked, often going into the sauna without nothing on. The ones that seem to have a hang up are the younger English guys who can be seen showering with their trunks on or putting on their boxers with their towels wrapped around them - all of which seems a bit odd to me. Most of the guys there are regulars and used to being naked. I admit when I first joined the gym it felt a bit awkward being naked around other guys, as the showers don't have seperate stalls, but after a couple of times those feelings of being self-conscious soon disappear. The worst a guy will do is have a quick glance at your bits, which if we're being honest we all do from time to time.
Chilled says:
I only get naked with women and plan on keeping it that way.
atlhockey says:
Yeah, we have one guy at my gym who is unbelievably hairy. I mean I've always considered myself hairy, but this poor guy's got a total body pelt. Anyway, he actually dries off standing under one of those hand blowers meant for, well, the hands. Pretty funny.
I'm a gym trainer and the worst thing to see is guy bent over trying to dry his arse with the hair dryer
not nice
Look, but don't touch..thats a no/no..May be the only looks some of you guys can get anyway...
This discussion has got me paying more attention to what goes on in the locker room. The other day I saw an older Chinese guy at the sinks shaving, with only a t-shirt on (naked below the waist). He was a short, stocky guy with a craggy face who looked tough and hard-bitten. Nothing remotely weak or gay about him. Perhaps an immigrant (had that "come from a tough life in the old country" look).
He wasn't looking around or paying attention to anybody else.
Before I might have wondered if he was trying to make a point by not having shorts or a towel on. But after the other guys' comments here, it actually seemed like he was just comfortable and not fussing about something unimportant. He was very relaxed. I won't necessarily do that myself, but he set a good example.
Anotherguy, I have never chosen a locker for its proximity to the showers, I generally walk nude from locker to shower room, carrying my towel or slinging it over one shoulder. This keeps it dry and clean and I'm gonna be naked in 30 seconds anyway, so what would be the point in covering up?. I hadn't really thought about "the walk" as being awkward, but everybody's different.
I agree that we should use common sense in a locker room. Be naked when you have to. We're all grown up men and there's nothing to be ashamed of. But don't over do it.
I have one question though.The ackward thing for me in my locker room is the walk from my locker to the showers. I know I can put on my towel, but I'd rather keep it clean for when I come out of the shower. And yes, this means me having to walk naked to the shower area. I always try to use the locker that is closet to the showers.
Yes, I am not ashamed or anything if I walk a few steps naked to the showers.
What do you guys think?
mytetop says:
What the heck has happened to being a man, its a locker room, I played sports in high school and college, act like you have got some sense, its bad enough that we are being flooded with all the womans movement now we can't even be men in an all male enviroment. We have let the younger guys become afraid of their own bodies, and where will that lead too, FEAR, we all have the same male equipment. Grow up men, grow up and have some common sense, you know when incidents are taken to far. Respect women but also respect that you are a man too. I have grown so tired of this catering attitude towards the rights of women and the lack of respect toward men, again, grow up. Deal with your homophobia, afterall that is what is not being addressed too.
Mel says:
I switched gyms because I got "the goated" from the older men too many times.
More power to you, NUDE MEANS NOTHING. We should all feel comfortable in the locker room, and you're right, it's none of my business how long somebody stays nude. I basically just do my thing and don't let myself get too jazzed by others. After all, locker rooms are what they are. And for most of us nudity around other males, especially if you've played sports, is no big deal. Now nudity around females??? Co-ed locker rooms?? That would be interesting!
YOU GUYS ARE SICK, I HAVE BEEN TO GYMS AND SPAS ALL OVER THE WORLD IN AUSTRIA THE MEN AND GIRLS ARE IN THE SAME AREA NAKED EVERYTHING HANGING OUT,JUST BECAUSE AMERICA OR AMORICA IS UPTIGHT OVER NUDITY MEANS NOTHING... IF I WANT TO RUN AROUND NAKED I WILL. I DONT CARE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT. GET CHANGED AT HOME...BUT THE GYM IS ONE PLACE I CAN BE NAKED IF I CHOSE TO BE....GET OVER YOU..NUDITY ISSUES
atlhockey says:
Hey Rye 3111, don't get me wrong. There is a point when too much nudity is too much. But I think it's an imprecise definition. It's like you know it when you see it. That ONE GUY who insists on nudity until it's not feasible to be naked anymore. He can throw off the whole equilibrium of the locker room -- can, in effect, make the rest of us naked guys actually feel naked. And that ends up feeling weird. I pay no attention to the exhibitionists. I am nude for an appropriate length of time. I'm not embarassed in the least to be nude but the locker room is not a place for me to flaunt my body. It's a place to change and wash and, frankly, socialize. It sounds like your lacrosse team is a good example of what I would call healthy locker room behavior. Guys being guys.
Rye3111 says:
atlhockey:
so guys being guys is hanging out for extended periods of time with our pieces dangling for all to see.
I think I know what you mean, rather that guys being guys is hanging out, just not really worrying too much about what other guys are doing, i agree with you on that front.
Listen, I've been in locker rooms since I was 2. I've probably seen more naked men than Madonna. I really don't care what you do and it doesn't actually make me uncomfortable. Maybe it just seems the new social norm to at least toss a towel on when trancing around the locker room.
I don't know, the right answer, probably isn't really a right one. but considering how easy it is to put on your skivies, or wrap a towel, why do you think these guys seem to want to be naked so much?
atlhockey says:
What makes a locker room comfortable is people who are relaxed. That usually comes from familiarity -- either with using locker rooms in general or using the same locker room every day. I generally see the same 20 or 30 guys every morning at my gym. We know each other by sight, we strike up conversations in the showers, while we're shaving, getting dressed/undressed. The fact that we might be nude is superfluous. I feel sorry for guys who are uptight in locker rooms because they are number one, a fact of male life, and number two, the last places on earth where guys can be guys and not worry about females getting pissed off about it. As for inappropriate/weird behavior -- I've been using locker rooms for 30 years and can recall only three instances in which I was uncomfortable.
Older guys were in the military. That knocks the modesty out of you.
Leonhardtx says:
One more thing about Rye3111's last comment that just struck me, then I'll shut up: He said a locker room is a public place, and implied we should be modest or whatever there. It just hit me -- I don't agree with that at all.
The only reason men and women don't change together, to me, is that we don't want to expose women and girls to the possibility of guys getting aroused and hitting on them when their clothes are off.
There are no similar reasons in a men's locker room to say that a guy should cover up. Historically men didn't do so -- they went skinny dipping, they crapped & pissed in full view of each other in communal pits or outhouses, etc.
So it isn't a "public" place where we need to be modest. That said, it's still weird to prance around naked all the time.
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